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February 28, 2015


Art Vandelay

Apple stopped giving a shit about computers once the iPhone became its primary source of cash. I switched to Windows 8 in the summer of 2012 and haven't looked back at the Mac since. Apple used to care about computers. Now it just wants to squeeze the iSheep for $700 every year on the annual iPhone upgrade cycle. You want innovative technology and a bold operating system? Look to Microsoft.


This article put into words what I have been thinking for years. OS X is being dumbed down to be more like iOS. As a user, I had hoped over time mobile devices would gain more features, to be like a desktop machine.


In my testing it took 20 seconds to a login window in yosemite on an 8GB RAM / 2.4Ghz i5 Late 2013 model and only 14 seconds to get to Safari browser. It might be subjective. Personally, I think they are moving forward with Yosemite.

James Katt

Good luck with the malware Lenovo placed on your computer. That is how much they think about you - a piece of meat.

Apple certainly cares about computers. The Mac is still the best desktop/laptop available. The primarily limiting factor is that Intel has reached a ceiling in how fast they can make processors.

Anyone who thinks OS X is dumbed down simply doesn't know how to use it with any sophistication. OS X is a TRUE UNIX operating system. Writing Macros that integrate multiple apps on a Mac is SO MUCH EASIER and POWERFUL compared to what can be done on Windows.

And only on a Mac - which I do every day - can you run Mac OS X 10.10, Mac OS X 10.8.5, Windows 7, and Windows 8.1 SIMULTANEOUSLY - each running an app that requires that OS for optimal function. You cannot do that on any other PC.

And if you complain about price, the realize that when you do head to head comparison with similar hardware, the Mac is cheaper and better.

If the matter is because you cannot afford a Mac, then that argument is a non-starter. You probably can't afford a Mercedes Benz or BMW either.

So good luck to you as you forage away from the Mac and Apple.


Well you and I disagree on almost everything and trying to settle it on the web is never much fun, but here are my responses.

The limiting factor isn’t Intel, it is Apple and its focus on iOS. Microsoft Mail 8.1 makes OSX mail look like a dinosaur. http://readwrite.com/2014/05/07/windows-8-1-review-microsoft-mail

And as to using the operating system with sophistication, I just want to get my work done and none of that “requires writing macros that integrate various apps.” Stability would be nice (Chrome crashed on my Mac last night and I have seen kernel panics) and booting quickly would be appreciated. Microsoft seems to have figured out how to boot very quickly. As to being able to run Windows and various versions of OSX on a Mac and not on Windows, I guess you realize that the only reason you cannot do OSX on Windows with VMware is that Apple will not let you. Actually they make it impossible to run OSX natively and legally on any hardware but their own. If Microsoft did the same thing, everyone would be screaming bloody murder.

As for price you are completely misinformed and using the “old head to head with the same features” the Mac is cheaper argument that is no longer true. I’ll make you a deal. If you can come up with a new I7 Mac from Apple that is under $1,000 and has 32GBs of RAM and a 2TB hard drive with keyboard, DVD drive, and mouse, I will happily write a check like I did to Lenovo before Christmas. Surely Apple can match those specifications?

Otherwise you can try your shaky facts and sophistication argument on someone who actually does not have all the computers on his desk and use them daily. By the way, none of my Lenovos came with the malware that you mention. Maybe you should read my article comparing Lenovo to Apple. I wrote that before Apple decided to pester us daily with the information that Mavericks isn’t compatible with the almost useless iCloud. It is bloatware marketing of the worst kind. However an incompatibility message should come as no surprise since Pages documents aren’t even compatible with themselves sometimes.


Lenovo actually thinks they can deliver quality, innovation and reasonable prices. I have had four of them along with all the Macs I have purchased. The Lenovo Yoga I5 that I bought in Nov. 2012 is the best laptop that I have ever owned. It cost me less than $1,000 and even has a SD slot. Try having over 40 tabs open in a couple of different browsers open on a Mac with only 4GBs of RAM and tell me how well your Mac works. My Yoga running Windows 8.1 handles it without a problem.

Here is a screen grab from the Yoga of one the two browsers when I was running the boot tests.


By the way I drive a ten year old Acura MDX and it manages to still get me from place to place. I bought it the spring after I bought the dual G5.


My new Macbook Pro 13 Retina cold boots to login in less than ten seconds, and I'm sure would be on Safari and ready for a URL not far after that. How much crap do you have running on your newer Macs to make them that slow? Damn. No wonder you think an old G5 is faster. Should've spent that money on a new Mac instead of a Lenovo.


I always enjoy when the blindly faithful comment. So your “new Macbook Pro 13 Retina cold boots in less than ten seconds?” And with that statement you think I should have spent my money on a Mac. If you read the article my 28 month old Yoga laptop cold boots in 8.5 seconds. I paid $999 for the Yoga. I am guessing you paid at least $1,299 for MacBook. Gosh I think I’ll keep my Lenovo. It boots faster for 30% less dollars.

Oh and one other point, I always know when I am dealing with a completely enthralled Mac user when I hear something like “How much crap do you have running on your newer Macs to make them that slow?” It is always the user’s fault not the Mac’s. How dare I put stuff on Mac that I might need to get my work done. Actually there is more stuff on the Lenovo Yoga than on the Mac. Spotify launches when it boots.

Try reading the article. I am surprised you didn’t tell me about your car too.

Do yourself a favor check out the Yoga 2 Pro prices they have gone down since I bought mine. This one is only $899.

4th Generation Intel Core i7-4510U Processor (2.00GHz 1600 MHz 4MB)

13.3" QHD+ LED Glossy Multi-touch with integrated camera (3200x1800)
Intel® HD Graphics 4400
8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
Hard Drive 256GB SSD



I guess I am not the only one unhappy with OSX. Maybe I did the right thing by putting my iMac with Yosemite back in the equipment closet.


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